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    Derrida....someone care to explain?

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    Post  Alex Bennett Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:26 pm

    I decided to finally read Derrida and I'm completely lost. I somewhat understand the basic terminology and concepts, but deconstruction and its aims and still mostly unknown to me.

    Right now I'm reading "Writing and Difference", I just finished "Force and Signification", and though I understand for the most part the implication he draws from his analysis (You can't criticize writing?) I can decipher what analysis actually is.

    Anyone well read on Derrida care to explain?
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    Post  poneill Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:41 pm

    Alex Bennett wrote:I decided to finally read Derrida and I'm completely lost. I somewhat understand the basic terminology and concepts, but deconstruction and its aims and still mostly unknown to me.

    Right now I'm reading "Writing and Difference", I just finished "Force and Signification", and though I understand for the most part the implication he draws from his analysis (You can't criticize writing?) I can decipher what analysis actually is.

    Anyone well read on Derrida care to explain?

    I mean do you have a more specific question ? Because generally, you're on the right track. It's not so much that you can't criticize writing, but rather that meaning is relative, so what I get out of a piece of literature isn't necessarily what you get out of literature,

    A good way to understand deconstruction is to read Deconstruction in a Nutshell by John Caputo. I think I have a digital copy of it somewhere on my laptop if you want.
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    Post  Alex Bennett Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:38 pm

    poneill wrote:
    Alex Bennett wrote:I decided to finally read Derrida and I'm completely lost. I somewhat understand the basic terminology and concepts, but deconstruction and its aims and still mostly unknown to me.

    Right now I'm reading "Writing and Difference", I just finished "Force and Signification", and though I understand for the most part the implication he draws from his analysis (You can't criticize writing?) I can decipher what analysis actually is.

    Anyone well read on Derrida care to explain?

    I mean do you have a more specific question ? Because generally, you're on the right track. It's not so much that you can't criticize writing, but rather that meaning is relative, so what I get out of a piece of literature isn't necessarily what you get out of literature,

    A good way to understand deconstruction is to read Deconstruction in a Nutshell by John Caputo. I think I have a digital copy of it somewhere on my laptop if you want.

    that would be awesome. I think his ideas are clearer reading the 2nd essay
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    Post  Old Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:37 pm

    Good example of deconstruction from the book poneill was talking about:

    John D. Caputo (Deconstruction in a Nutshell 1997)
    For example, and this is not just an example but the very idea of deconstruction, everything in deconstruction is turned toward a “democracy to come.” For even if the existing democracies are the best we can do at present, the least bad way to organize ourselves, still the present democratic structures are deeply undemocratic. They are corrupted, among other things, by the money that blatantly buys votes, by corporate contributions to politicians and political parties that frees their corporate hand to fill the air and water with carcinogens, to encourage smoking by the youngest and poorest people in our society; by cowardly politicians who believe in nothing, who change their views with each new poll, who perpetuate themselves with demagogic promises, who appeal to the worst and lowest instincts of the populace; by media that corrupt national discourse, that fuel the fires of nationalist resentment and racism and stampede voters. American politicians regularly predicate their careers on promises to lower taxes, exclude immigrants, throw the weakest and most defenseless people in our society - usually black and Hispanic women and children - on their own under the cloak of ‘reform’ and ‘freedom,’ thereby filling the pockets of the richest members of society. In the highest hypocrisy of all, they try to ram down every one’s throat a right wing, xenophobic, reactionary Christianity that has nothing to do with, which flies in the face of, Jesus’s prophetic fervor and his stand with the weakest and most outcast among people. They claim that the United States was founded on Christian principles while dismissing the mass genocide of native Americans by the colonizing, Christianizing, missionary Europeans. Their ‘Christian’ message of hatred for the other and self-aggrandizement, their skill at turning the crucifixion into a profitable business, has more to do with the self-righteous hypocrisy of what Kierkegaard called ‘Christendom’ that with Jesus’s prophetic denunciation of the powers that be (42-43). Democracy does not exist, and The corruption of existing democracies must become the subject of endless analysis, critique, and deconstruction, for these democracies are hardly democratic. The idea of such analyses is not to level democratic institutions to the ground but to open them up to a democracy to come, to turn them around from what they are at present, which is the pre-vention of the other, forces that forestall in advance anything different or radically new. The very idea, the very in-ventionalist idea, of deconstruction is to open democracy to its own promise, to what it promises to become: to provide a chance or an opening for invention, the in-coming, of the other (which is not a bad way to define immigration). Preparing for the incoming of the other, which is what constitutes a radical democracy – that is what deconstruction is, something that would also be, on my accounting, a little more biblical and a lot less hypocritical.
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